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VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #681] Sun, 31 July 2016 09:28 Go to next message
Garfield is currently offline Garfield
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VideoCharge FULL versions 3.9.0.05 and 3.9.1.06 always encode to DV with 720*480@25.

Even original DV file taken from the PAL camera with 720*576@25 is encoded with NTSC resolution and PAL framerate (it is stupid to reencode into the same format but i did it for testing purposes).

But no problems with Uncompressed RGB.

So before paying for VC I need to know if ignoring of the screen 6: Please set the frame options of the wizard or the Frame tab in the main interface is a limitation of the trial version or it is a continuous bug?

[Updated on: Wed, 01 August 2007 09:30]

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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #682 is a reply to message #681 ] Sun, 31 July 2016 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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But what format did you select for the output? VideoCharge is not able to reencode videos into DV format, so it seems to be a kind of misunderstanding.
Anyway, please send us the config file you worked with (to support@videocharge.com or attach it to the post). We'll examine it and probably gain an understanding of the problem.
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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #683 is a reply to message #682 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 00:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5839/67672598rv2.jpg

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I do not understand what do you mean when speaking about the config file I'm working with. I will do what you request if you would be more explanative.

Thank you for your concern.



Videocharge Support wrote on Wed, 01 August 2007 11:09

But what format did you select for the output? VideoCharge is not able to reencode videos into DV format, so it seems to be a kind of misunderstanding.
Anyway, please send us the config file you worked with (to support@videocharge.com or attach it to the post). We'll examine it and probably gain an understanding of the problem.
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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #684 is a reply to message #683 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you for the information. The matter is that the selected codec - DV Video Encoder - does not support other frame sizes. It always performs resize to 720*480 inside itself and we can do nothing here. You are recommended to select some another codec to get a file of 720*576 at the output.

As for config file - you can learn more about it in this topic.
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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #685 is a reply to message #684 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 11:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Why not to use another DV codec, that supports 720*576?

Videocharge Support wrote on Thu, 02 August 2007 06:47

The matter is that the selected codec - DV Video Encoder - does not support other frame sizes. It always performs resize to 720*480 inside itself and we can do nothing here.
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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #686 is a reply to message #685 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Generally speaking VideoCharge doesn't support encoding to DV format. As far as we can learn from the screenshots, you were trying to create AVI files. Here you could select any codec that was installed on your operating system for video stream encoding - you selected "DV Video Encoder" one. DV Video Encoder is a product of an off-site producer, and so we are not responsible for its work. If there is some other DV codec installed on your OS, you can try using it by selecting it from the Video Codec list on step #4.
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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #687 is a reply to message #686 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 11:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I did my tests with freshly installed XP so DV Video Encoder defenitely came with VideoCharge.

I need exactly DV. VC offers one but it seems it fails...

Sad

Videocharge Support wrote on Thu, 02 August 2007 07:36

Generally speaking VideoCharge doesn't support encoding to DV format. As far as we can learn from the screenshots, you were trying to create AVI files. Here you could select any codec that was installed on your operating system for video stream encoding - you selected "DV Video Encoder" one. DV Video Encoder is a product of an off-site producer, and so we are not responsible for its work. If there is some other DV codec installed on your OS, you can try using it by selecting it from the Video Codec list on step #4.
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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #688 is a reply to message #687 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WinXP comes along with a number of built-in codecs, so that only means DV Video Encoder codec is a MicroSoft's one.
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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #689 is a reply to message #688 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 12:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't you find your answers a bit contradictory? First you answer that DV Video Encoder encodes strictly to 720*480 and you can do nothing with it, then you answer that VC has no DV encoder at all...

Here are codecs that came with Windows MCE 2005.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5226/screenshotgm7.jpg

Could you please point to DV codec here?


Windows Movie Maker comes with its own DV encoder which it does not allow to use with other software (please correct me if I'm wrong). And this codec has no problems with 720*576/25 at all.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4586/screenshotis6.jpg


Videocharge Support wrote on Thu, 02 August 2007 08:07

WinXP comes along with a number of built-in codecs, so that only means DV Video Encoder codec is a MicroSoft's one.
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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #690 is a reply to message #689 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 13:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Garfield wrote on Thu, 02 August 2007 08:56

Don't you find your answers a bit contradictory? First you answer that DV Video Encoder encodes strictly to 720*480 and you can do nothing with it, then you answer that VC has no DV encoder at all...

We don't see any contradictions here. VideoCharge enables to create AVI files and use any codec installed on OS for video stream encoding. There may be lots of different codecs and we don't know exactly how each of them works and what restrictions are put on it. All we know about DV Video Encoder is that it does not permit producing frames different from 720*480, that it's kept in "C:\Windows\System32\qdv.dll" file and that it's not our codec. And the files that you create using this codec are AVI files, not DV.
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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #691 is a reply to message #681 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 13:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BTW, you can make sure that qdv.dll is a MicroSoft's file by viewing its properties via Windows Explorer.

[Updated on: Thu, 02 August 2007 13:49]

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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #692 is a reply to message #690 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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QDV.DLL is used by Windows Movie Maker for encoding videos to DV files which can be sent back to the camera's tape. Does not it mean that files, produced by this codec, are true DV files?

I have no problems converting into 720*576/25 with WMM, but it understands very few formats as input.

I'm not as huge specialist in video converting as you are, but I suppose that if one piece of software can encode into DV 720*576/25 using QDV.DLL then VC in case it uses the same codec (you have just prooved that it does) can also do so. Or not?


Videocharge Support wrote on Thu, 02 August 2007 09:43

All we know about DV Video Encoder is that it does not permit producing frames different from 720*480, that it's kept in "C:\Windows\System32\qdv.dll" file and that it's not our codec. And the files that you create using this codec are AVI files, not DV.
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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #693 is a reply to message #692 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Garfield wrote on Thu, 02 August 2007 12:04

QDV.DLL is used by Windows Movie Maker for encoding videos to DV files which can be sent back to the camera's tape. Does not it mean that files, produced by this codec, are true DV files?

Yes, this does not necessarily mean that the files are DV ones.
Garfield wrote on Thu, 02 August 2007 12:04


I'm not as huge specialist in video converting as you are, but I suppose that if one piece of software can encode into DV 720*576/25 using QDV.DLL then VC in case it uses the same codec (you have just prooved that it does) can also do so. Or not?


DV Video Encoder codec is closed, therefore we can use only those its features that are documented, declassified. Since both Windows Movie Maker and DV Video Encoder are produced by Microsoft, most likely WMM uses some features of the codec that are not documented and we have no access to.

[Updated on: Thu, 02 August 2007 16:39]

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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #694 is a reply to message #681 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 16:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I suppose I have no more questions.
Thank you for your attention.
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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #695 is a reply to message #694 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 17:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thank you for your suggestions and your interest in our product! Probably we'll include full DV support in one of the next versions of VideoCharge.
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Re: VC Full ignores resize options when converting into DV [message #697 is a reply to message #695 ] Mon, 01 August 2016 23:27 Go to previous message
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In this case I'd purchase it immediately. If no other solution will be found by the date you'll release such VC version.

Videocharge Support wrote on Thu, 02 August 2007 13:55

Probably we'll include full DV support in one of the next versions of VideoCharge.
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